ghost cam legal issues

After talking with a rep at LethalP I learned that there are some Legal issues with Ford and the ghost cams, so they are no longer currently available. Anyone have anymore info on this? Right before I was about to get one too

Give Evolution Performace in PA a call, im sure they'd be glad to help you if they can. Im not sure if the tuner supplying Lethal with the "Ghost Cam" tune is the same tuner supplying EVO with theirs.

I can't see how that would be illegal, interesting.

Technically it should be for "offroad use only".

fdjizm said:

I can't see how that would be illegal, interesting.

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Probably something to do with access to the tables that control the valve timing. This, if for real, should be an interesting read.

StangPower05 said:

Give Evolution Performace in PA a call, im sure they'd be glad to help you if they can. Im not sure if the tuner supplying Lethal with the "Ghost Cam" tune is the same tuner supplying EVO with theirs.

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It is John Lund does tuning for Evo perf and Lethal both, But his main is Evo im almost sure..


Not sure why either. Maybe they have been having some serious problems with them and theyre using the legal issue ploy? American muscle's (Bama) thread on Allfordmustangs.com said they should be out within the next month. Stuff just doesn't add up.

without revealing who I talked to. This was copied from the chat window..

Tech: We're not sure. It's not a tune issue, it's a licensing issue with Ford.

I ordered mufflers from Lethal today and also asked them about the Ghost Tune. They told me the same thing, no more Ghost Tunes available. They said Ford somehow put a stop to them. I was gonna get one at Mustang Week.

I know Bama, Lethal, Evolution performance, Livernois, and Torq? are the main ones i know of that offered them. Maybe if any of them are on this forum they can chime in? It had me sold..

19COBRA93 said:

Technically it should be for "offroad use only".

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Yea the only thing maybe emissions, with the exhaust valves etc crap but that is what cats are for. idk.

19COBRA93 said:

Technically it should be for "offroad use only".

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All aftermarket tunes should technically be for "offroad use only" so I don't think this is the issue.

BAKnBLK2010 said:

All aftermarket tunes should technically be for "offroad use only" so I don't think this is the issue.

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Im thinking their is an underlying issue and this is the scapegoat, BUT. The ghost cam idle option has been removed from all major tuners websites so...idk

Hmmm subscribing

If Ford is involved, it's probably related to the Boss 302 Red Key thing FRPP has going. It offers a similar idle.

Interesting indeed. Subscribing.

I bet it's connected the track key for the BOSS 302 which I've heard does the same kind of thing with cam tuning.

EDIT: Bahhh you beat me to it!!

19COBRA93 said:

If Ford is involved, it's probably related to the Boss 302 Red Key thing FRPP has going. It offers a similar idle.

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I heard it had to do with the track key from Ford for the Boss. Something about how it's not designed to work safely with the GT's being that they have different exhaust cam specs and could cause damage.

I'm so excited )

I started a controversial/interesting/informing thread that people are subscribing too lolz

19COBRA93 said:

If Ford is involved, it's probably related to the Boss 302 Red Key thing FRPP has going. It offers a similar idle.

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This is what I was thinking... sounds like someone figured out how ford was doing that and was making $ off of it.

Think the track key option could be offered by ford? Someone told me that lund had an inside with ford and that is how he was able to do it. So I think that leaked and so on now everyone is busted.

Ford could be preparing to release the BOSS Track Key “tune” to all 5.0 owners as an “OFF ROAD USE” tune. Doing this would be a proprietary thing. Whatever the reason, it’s about making money or saving money. I’ll bet making money.