Edelbrock E-Force Results........

[ROUSH1711]

I just caught up w/all this.. lol pheww...


Im happy to be reading about real world experiences.
Little by little they will get out there for all of us to
decide on our own.Sure...I was set on edelbrock from
the get-go,but that's only becuase Im old and stubborn

Chris,Mike,Im curious if you guys can narrow that down,good luck.

 

[MickeySaleen]

I know this thread is not about my install as I am far from stock, but I drove the car over 700 miles round trip this weekend in the wind, rain and snow to race at Milan. I got there changes my rear tire to the DR's, adjusted my tokico's, got tech'd in and lined up for my first run ever with the blower. I have nothing to gain from Mike @ Powerhouse nor from Edelbrock, this kit performed flawlessly and better than I expected at 13 psi. It does what is advertised and more imho. I got no price break on the kit either, it is all out of my own pocket. I also got 19+ mpg for the trip too, it would have been better but mashing the gas pedal is just too tempting.

I had a gen 1 whipple on the car before this @ 10 psi and it ran great as well but I did run as well as this and I am only 3 psi higher with the Edelbrock.

The only major difference to the car from last year is I forged the motor but it still the stock compression, stock crank and heads. I do have Brenspeeds twinscrew grind cams on the car but they are a very mild grind and you can not hear them at all. How much did they add? I do not know but there site claims 20 rwhp so it not great gains but modest ones.

If anyone is thinking about this kit I would not be worried about buying one. I am sure if you have an issue with it edelbrock will stand behind their product, like they have for everything else they sell, for many years.

Good to hear you're enjoying your blower. what times did you run?

 

[Rygen]

Good to hear you're enjoying your blower. what times did you run?

He went 11.14, in this thread, which you responded to:

http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14449

 

[Mike@PowerHouse]

The E-Force sounds good to me but does it fit well under a stock hood ?

Yes it will, and it will also fit under the Ford Racing strut tower brace.

 

[tigerhonaker]

Question ???

Hello to everyone. I am new to this site. I have owned my Mustang for a little over one year. It is a 2008, I now have 10,000 miles on it. This week R&A Motorsports (Lee's Summit MO) put a edelbrock supercharger on my car. My car is completly stock with automatic, 20" wheels, and 14" brakes on rear. The car was dynoed at Vamp Racing (on dynojet) before the install, results were, 256.39 HP, and 249.06 TQ. After the install Friday (4/3/09) at Vamp Racing. The results were 385.38 HP, and 389.38 TQ. In normal driving you would never know anything had ben done, but give it the gas and it runs great! Have drove it about 150 miles and love it. I believe R&A has video of the dyno run. Will have them post it Monday or Tuesday.

I would really like to read more here about what you think of the blower now that you have it installed. Here you said that it has 150 Miles on it. As you have driven it more what do you think ???

I'm very much considering the purchase of one in the next two months and would like to read here what You and Others that actually have them think.

I see you have done 1-Post and hope you check back here to see if anyone had any questions for you.

Anyone else here have the blower on a Stock Application ???

If so I would like very much to read your comments concerning it.

Thanks,

 

[tigerhonaker]

Would really like to know ???

Chris,
If you have the time give me a call tomorrow, I would like to hear more of your exprience...First hand.

Mike,
I would also like to know what the bottom line was........

Would you mind sharing what was really going on with the Tillman thing ?

Maybe NOT here in the Open Forum, but perhaps in a PM or E-Mail ??

And what words would you have to share with perhaps a New Purchaser for the blower ???

I'm interested in what you have to say and if by chance you have already Posted multiple Post on this Topic ??? Links would be Great !!!

In the next two months I am going to make a decision on which Blower. I'm very much leaning towards the Edelbrock.

Thanks,

 

[FalconGTHO]

Sure. I'm good for one or two sig quotes every six months or so.

Lol, shit, every six days.

 

[Mike@PowerHouse]

Mike,
I would also like to know what the bottom line was........

Would you mind sharing what was really going on with the Tillman thing ?

Maybe NOT here in the Open Forum, but perhaps in a PM or E-Mail ??

And what words would you have to share with perhaps a New Purchaser for the blower ???

I'm interested in what you have to say and if by chance you have already Posted multiple Post on this Topic ??? Links would be Great !!!

In the next two months I am going to make a decision on which Blower. I'm very much leaning towards the Edelbrock.

Thanks,

In respect for the others involved in the conversation, I will keep it "off the record".

The Edelbrock is a very nice piece, It looks good, installs easily, and performs very well. As a bonus it is very quite.
Any of my customers will tell you that I usually opt to make my own parts, simply becasue I believe that current components that are offered could be done much better, but the e-force is not the case.
The Edelbrock simply adapts the engineering that was done by Eaton for the OEM's and puts it in their own case/ package.

There is alot of criteria that has to be met for me to promote a product, this unit has met them all.

If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call.

 

[tigerhonaker]

Edelbrock Install Questions concerning the Tune ???

In respect for the others involved in the conversation, I will keep it "off the record".

The Edelbrock is a very nice piece, It looks good, installs easily, and performs very well. As a bonus it is very quite.
Any of my customers will tell you that I usually opt to make my own parts, simply because I believe that current components that are offered could be done much better, but the e-force is not the case.
The Edelbrock simply adapts the engineering that was done by Eaton for the OEM's and puts it in their own case/ package.

There is alot of criteria that has to be met for me to promote a product, this unit has met them all.

If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call.

Hi Mike,

=Mike@PowerHouse;227438]In respect for the others involved in the conversation, I will keep it "off the record".

Off Topic: Not a Problem here at all. I ask the question as I am interested in purchasing the Blower and I am in No-Way interested in Bashing Tillman, Period.
I've been around for a very long time with performance vehicles.
And Totally realize that things can and do happen.
In some cases a Defective Component as well as Frustated Installer/Company.

Question ? On the units you guys have installed on "Stock" Mustangs have you by chance done a 2008/2009 Bullitt Mustang with the Factory FRPP CAI ?

My Bullitt Mustang getting the Steeda "Billet" Delete Plates and Underdrive Pulleys installed.

This will show you the Factory FRPP CAI intake that comes on the Bullitt.

Or if not the Bullitt Mustang with the CAI, what about the GT Mustang and instead of using the Stock Air Box going with the Edelbrock CAI that is part of a Upgrade for Higher Output ?

E-FORCE COMPETITION AIR INTAKE SYSTEM
The E-Force Competition Air Intake System includes a high flow, 95mm, Mass Airflow Sensor (MAFS) capable of supporting up to 90 lbs/min of air flow. It includes an 8" long, reusable, open element filter with plastic shroud. This system is for use with Competition Supercharger kit #1585.

The Bullitt Mustang as you know comes with the FRPP CAI and I would imagine that you cannot run it. But I would think you could purchase this Part #15808 and have Higher Output plus keep the look of the Factory CAI that the Bullitt Mustang has.

I realize that this is just one of the options for the Edelbrock. My real concern here is the Tune that is shipped with the Edelbrock. It would NOT be correct I would NOT think for the Option of the #15808 CAI.

I have been reading as many Threads/Post that I can find on the New Edelbrock Blower and I did see that a Poster did ask this Question.

What about the Mustangs in this case My 2008 Bullitt Mustang that has the Steeda Underdrive Pulleys, Steeda "Billet" Delete Plates, FRPP 4:10 Gears and running a (Custom 93-Octane BRENSPEED Tune) ? Along with a Magnaflow #16674 3" Exhaust System. My understanding is that you have to download the (Stock Tune) back. That certainly is NOT going to work because of Obvious reasons of the other Mods that I just Listed.

I'm Very much interested in how the Edlebrock Tune is going to work with Mustangs like my Bullitt that has Performance Mods already.

I would think that you guys installing the Edelbrock have (Already) experienced this situation. Very Few owners have Completely Stock Mustangs with No-Performance Mods already on their car.

I would certainly Appreciate any (Matter-of-Fact) information regarding the above. I'm NOT into just Posting here or on any other Forum just for the Heck of it. I'm asking these questions in the Hope that the Performance Shops that have and are doing the installs for the "New Edelbrock" have the Answers as you have already went through the process.

I think you can see that if these Questions cannot be answered then Me or Anyone else considering the Edelbrock will have to go with a different Blower that the Tune is done in Shop to Handle All Mods Done along with the Installed New Blower.

 

[navbtcret]

Hi Mike,



Off Topic: Not a Problem here at all. I ask the question as I am interested in purchasing the Blower and I am in No-Way interested in Bashing Tillman, Period.
I've been around for a very long time with performance vehicles.
And Totally realize that things can and do happen.
In some cases a Defective Component as well as Frustated Installer/Company.

Question ? On the units you guys have installed on "Stock" Mustangs have you by chance done a 2008/2009 Bullitt Mustang with the Factory FRPP CAI ?

My Bullitt Mustang getting the Steeda "Billet" Delete Plates and Underdrive Pulleys installed.

This will show you the Factory FRPP CAI intake that comes on the Bullitt.

Or if not the Bullitt Mustang with the CAI, what about the GT Mustang and instead of using the Stock Air Box going with the Edelbrock CAI that is part of a Upgrade for Higher Output ?

E-FORCE COMPETITION AIR INTAKE SYSTEM
The E-Force Competition Air Intake System includes a high flow, 95mm, Mass Airflow Sensor (MAFS) capable of supporting up to 90 lbs/min of air flow. It includes an 8" long, reusable, open element filter with plastic shroud. This system is for use with Competition Supercharger kit #1585.

The Bullitt Mustang as you know comes with the FRPP CAI and I would imagine that you cannot run it. But I would think you could purchase this Part #15808 and have Higher Output plus keep the look of the Factory CAI that the Bullitt Mustang has.

I realize that this is just one of the options for the Edelbrock. My real concern here is the Tune that is shipped with the Edelbrock. It would NOT be correct I would NOT think for the Option of the #15808 CAI.

I have been reading as many Threads/Post that I can find on the New Edelbrock Blower and I did see that a Poster did ask this Question.

What about the Mustangs in this case My 2008 Bullitt Mustang that has the Steeda Underdrive Pulleys, Steeda "Billet" Delete Plates, FRPP 4:10 Gears and running a (Custom 93-Octane BRENSPEED Tune) ? Along with a Magnaflow #16674 3" Exhaust System. My understanding is that you have to download the (Stock Tune) back. That certainly is NOT going to work because of Obvious reasons of the other Mods that I just Listed.

I'm Very much interested in how the Edlebrock Tune is going to work with Mustangs like my Bullitt that has Performance Mods already.

I would think that you guys installing the Edelbrock have (Already) experienced this situation. Very Few owners have Completely Stock Mustangs with No-Performance Mods already on their car.

I would certainly Appreciate any (Matter-of-Fact) information regarding the above. I'm NOT into just Posting here or on any other Forum just for the Heck of it. I'm asking these questions in the Hope that the Performance Shops that have and are doing the installs for the "New Edelbrock" have the Answers as you have already went through the process.

I think you can see that if these Questions cannot be answered then Me or Anyone else considering the Edelbrock will have to go with a different Blower that the Tune is done in Shop to Handle All Mods Done along with the Installed New Blower.

I can answer some of your questions as I have one of these installed and tuned by Mike. If you are going to buy a blower do not get the delete plates or the underdrive pulley's. All twin screw blowers have their own intakes and you'll just have to sell the delete plates and the underdrive pulley's will slow your blower down and you'll make less boost.

The FRPP intake is the intake Mike used on my car instead of Edelbrock's and it looks and works great. He would just have to adjust your tune is all. My car is far from stock and Mike tuned it just fine.

 

[ranebowcyxx]

Damn Ron, that looks sweet. Can't wait to see it live.

 

[Rygen]

That thing looks clean under the hood.

 

[Mike@PowerHouse]

Hi Mike,



Off Topic: Not a Problem here at all. I ask the question as I am interested in purchasing the Blower and I am in No-Way interested in Bashing Tillman, Period.
I've been around for a very long time with performance vehicles.
And Totally realize that things can and do happen.
In some cases a Defective Component as well as Frustated Installer/Company.

Question ? On the units you guys have installed on "Stock" Mustangs have you by chance done a 2008/2009 Bullitt Mustang with the Factory FRPP CAI ?

As mentioned above by Ron, We have used your cold air on the Edelbrock kits, coupled w/ our airmeter.
If you are serious about a supercharger of sorts you need not do the deletes or the underdrives, the UD will have adverse effects w/ the supercharger as it will slow down the pulley speed of the supercharger. And the delete plates are basically part of the supercharger package as the blower/manifold replaces everything from the heads on up.


Give me a call tomorrow during the day and I will gladly answer any questions that you may have....

 

[doogie]

That looks awesome with the FRPP CAI!!

So I have to ask... what inlet tube did you use to connect the FRPP to the TB or will the one from the EB base kit work?

 

[Mike@PowerHouse]

That is a piece that you can get here....The piece supplied by edelbrock will not work.

 

[tigerhonaker]

As mentioned above by Ron, We have used your cold air on the Edelbrock kits, coupled w/ our airmeter.
If you are serious about a supercharger of sorts you need not do the deletes or the underdrives, the UD will have adverse effects w/ the supercharger as it will slow down the pulley speed of the supercharger. And the delete plates are basically part of the supercharger package as the blower/manifold replaces everything from the heads on up.


Give me a call tomorrow during the day and I will gladly answer any questions that you may have....

Thank-You ........

Terry

 

[tigerhonaker]

I can answer some of your questions as I have one of these installed and tuned by Mike. If you are going to buy a blower do not get the delete plates or the underdrive pulley's. All twin screw blowers have their own intakes and you'll just have to sell the delete plates and the underdrive pulley's will slow your blower down and you'll make less boost.

The FRPP intake is the intake Mike used on my car instead of Edelbrock's and it looks and works great. He would just have to adjust your tune is all. My car is far from stock and Mike tuned it just fine.

Ron,

Tell me about your GT I'm interested.

When did you do the Blower ?

What other Mods are you running ?

This is probably something you are tired of repeating but I have to ask

because I don't know.

With the Blower here what is the H/P & Torque ?

Are you running the Pulley that came with the Kit ?

Bring me up to date ........

I already have the Steeda Delete Plates as well as the Steeda Underdrive Pulleys.

Looks like someone is going to get a deal if I go to this Edelbrock.

By the way I really like the way the Blower looks on your GT. Nice !!!!!

I'm liking a Bright Yellow Mustang.

This is the last Yellow one I had.

Blown Saleen.

Terry

 

[navbtcret]

Ron,

Tell me about your GT I'm interested.

When did you do the Blower ?

What other Mods are you running ?

This is probably something you are tired of repeating but I have to ask

because I don't know.

With the Blower here what is the H/P & Torqe ?

Are you running the Pulley that came with the Kit ?

Bring me up to date ........

I already have the Steeda Delete Plates as well as the Steeda Underdrive Pulleys.

Looks like someone is going to get a deal if I go to this Edelbrock.

By the way I really like the way the Blower looks on your GT. Nice !!!!!

I'm liking a Bright Yellow Mustang.

This is the last Yellow one I had.

Blown Saleen.

Terry

Terry,

Thanks. I have a forged motor, stock compression, stock crank, stock heads, with Brenspeeds NSR twin screw cams. I have FRPP shotries, SLP loudmouths and stock cats. I am running the 2.75 pulley and it makes 13 psi boost, I get up to 13.5 at around 6k rpms. On Mikes Mustang dyno it put down 502 rwhp and 489 rwtq. I also have a 4r70w transmission with the bauman controller. I have 3.73 gears and all the suspension goodies along with and aluminum driveshaft. GT500 dual fuel pumps and I am still running 93 octane.

I have had it on the car over three weeks now and have put over 1k miles on it with no issues. I drove it over 700 miles round trip last weekend to Michigan to Milan to make some passes with the car. I managed an 11.14 @ 124 mph for my best run with a 60' of 1.52. I did trap another time @ 126 mph. This is with everything in the car also on 18" rims on the front and 17' DR's on the back at the track.

My car started out a V6 but has transformed into this.

 

[tigerhonaker]

Terry,

Thanks. I have a forged motor, stock compression, stock crank, stock heads, with Brenspeeds NSR twin screw cams. I have FRPP shotries, SLP loudmouths and stock cats. I am running the 2.75 pulley and it makes 13 psi boost, I get up to 13.5 at around 6k rpms. On Mikes Mustang dyno it put down 502 rwhp and 489 rwtq. I also have a 4r70w transmission with the bauman controller. I have 3.73 gears and all the suspension goodies along with and aluminum driveshaft. GT500 dual fuel pumps and I am still running 93 octane.

I have had it on the car over three weeks now and have put over 1k miles on it with no issues. I drove it over 700 miles round trip last weekend to Michigan to Milan to make some passes with the car. I managed an 11.14 @ 124 mph for my best run with a 60' of 1.52. I did trap another time @ 126 mph. This is with everything in the car also on 18" rims on the front and 17' DR's on the back at the track.

My car started out a V6 but has transformed into this.

Ron,

So you are running the BRENSPEED "NSR Comp Blower Cams" I take it.

I have the "Dynotech" Aluminum Driveshaft and BRENSPEED 93 Performance Tune from Brent White. That is also where the Steeda Delete Plates and Steeda underdrive pulleys came from. I have the FRPP 4:10 Gears.

You have a very interesting Mustang.

Something to be Proud of for Sure .........

I appreciate your Post here with the info. you have shared.

Terry

 

[ullery215]

I would really like to read more here about what you think of the blower now that you have it installed. Here you said that it has 150 Miles on it. As you have driven it more what do you think ???

I'm very much considering the purchase of one in the next two months and would like to read here what You and Others that actually have them think.

I see you have done 1-Post and hope you check back here to see if anyone had any questions for you.

Anyone else here have the blower on a Stock Application ???

If so I would like very much to read your comments concerning it.

Thanks,

Sorry I did not get back sooner, that work thing gets in the way! I have driven my car about 400 miles with the edelbrock, and I still love it. R&A Motorsports is going to put the edelbrock cold air kit on tomorrow, and the car will be dynoed again. I will let everyone know what happens soon. By the way I have been running the edelbrock tune with no issues. Edelbrock is sending a new tune fro the cold air kit.