Edelbrock E-Force Results........

[Ninjak]

Actually Tillman received THREE ede blowers which all did the same thing...

I followed the original thread..I really do not think they recieved three DIFFERENT blowers. I think that they got some new parts, like the MAF, tune, and then finally got a new unit....but three blowers..I do not think so.

At any rate, it would seem that those problems are gone, and like I said, the original thread is also gone. In the end results matter, and we are starting to see them now. So if I was in the market for a S/C, I really could care less what Tillmans was not able to do, but more on what others and proven RESULTS were.

 

[ullery215]

Hello to everyone. I am new to this site. I have owned my Mustang for a little over one year. It is a 2008, I now have 10,000 miles on it. This week R&A Motorsports (Lee's Summit MO) put a edelbrock supercharger on my car. My car is completly stock with automatic, 20" wheels, and 14" brakes on rear. The car was dynoed at Vamp Racing (on dynojet) before the install, results were, 256.39 HP, and 249.06 TQ. After the install Friday (4/3/09) at Vamp Racing. The results were 385.38 HP, and 389.38 TQ. In normal driving you would never know anything had ben done, but give it the gas and it runs great! Have drove it about 150 miles and love it. I believe R&A has video of the dyno run. Will have them post it Monday or Tuesday.

 

[moosestang]

Because most of those doing the criticizing don't run down a racetrack and dyno numbers mean more to them than getting laid.

Those that can't get laid run down a race track.

Hey Jim, I haven't followed your posts on this subject, but your reputation precedes you.

 

[Rygen]

Those that can't get laid run down a race track.

Are you for fucking real? You telling me the guys with framed dyno sheets get laid. WTF. The kit performs, end of story!

 

[Rygen]

PS: For those of you intent on bench racing, a friend of mine who's an admin on MF said they just created a "racers bench" bench racing section, go over there and do some virtual racing!

http://mustangforums.com/forum/the-racers-bench-127/

 

[Mike@PowerHouse]

Those that can't get laid run down a race track.

Really,, Am I reading this correctly? Is this true? My whole world has just come crumbling down....


Seriously, Can we keep this on point, and shelf the sticks and stone stuff?

 

[tillman speed]

I followed the original thread..I really do not think they recieved three DIFFERENT blowers. I think that they got some new parts, like the MAF, tune, and then finally got a new unit....but three blowers..I do not think so.

At any rate, it would seem that those problems are gone, and like I said, the original thread is also gone. In the end results matter, and we are starting to see them now. So if I was in the market for a S/C, I really could care less what Tillmans was not able to do, but more on what others and proven RESULTS were.

Wow... I think I know what you mean, though. We receieved two units that both didnt make power, different MAFs, pulleys, tunes, etc. Nothing seemed to make a difference. The problem may still be fixable, so we'll find out... however, doesn't anyone want to give us the benefit of the doubt that we actually got a bad unit?

At LEAST 6 people tuned the car with the same results
We've had different blowers, o2 sensors, plugs, wideband sensors, etc.
Put another blower on and it makes power out of the box...

It's not what we weren't "able to do" its what the kits not doing!

Chris

 

[Ninjak]

Wow... I think I know what you mean, though. We receieved two units that both didnt make power, different MAFs, pulleys, tunes, etc. Nothing seemed to make a difference. The problem may still be fixable, so we'll find out... however, doesn't anyone want to give us the benefit of the doubt that we actually got a bad unit?

At LEAST 6 people tuned the car with the same results
We've had different blowers, o2 sensors, plugs, wideband sensors, etc.
Put another blower on and it makes power out of the box...

It's not what we weren't "able to do" its what the kits not doing!

Chris

I am basically commenting on someone else saying you had three complete different blowers and that is the reason why the Ede kit does not work. If you follow my threads on both forums I put no blame on anyone, but I will and still do say, others were able to get this kit to work.

For whatever the reason were, your kits did not work for you. because of this, every bench racer and critic is on the bashwagon against ede and every other installer who has gotten the kit to work has some secret agenda with ede. I am commenting on this, and I have never said you(Tillmans) did not have issues, nor was it your fault. But to say the kit is garbage because Tillmans did not get it to work is incorrect.

Of course I am not saying that Tillmans think the kit is garbage by the way.

 

[tillman speed]

I am basically commenting on someone else saying you had three complete different blowers and that is the reason why the Ede kit does not work. If you follow my threads on both forums I put no blame on anyone, but I will and still do say, others were able to get this kit to work.

For whatever the reason were, your kits did not work for you. because of this, every bench racer and critic is on the bashwagon against ede and every other installer who has gotten the kit to work has some secret agenda with ede. I am commenting on this, and I have never said you(Tillmans) did not have issues, nor was it your fault. But to say the kit is garbage because Tillmans did not get it to work is incorrect.

Of course I am not saying that Tillmans think the kit is garbage by the way.

Oh, no I got ya... no problem. Yeah, we had to actual chargers. I don't want people to be against Edelbrock, and I think they know that's not my intentions. Thats the other half of the reason why I got rid of that long post on The Mustang Source. I do, however, want my kit to be figured out, and if Edelbrock doesn't want to dig into it deeper, we sure will...

Chris

 

[Mike@PowerHouse]

Chris,
If you have the time give me a call tomorrow, I would like to hear more of your exprience...First hand.

 

[ranebowcyxx]

Because most of those doing the criticizing don't run down a racetrack and dyno numbers mean more to them than getting laid.

Can I put that in my sig, I love it.

 

[US-1]

Can I put that in my sig, I love it.

Sure. I'm good for one or two sig quotes every six months or so.

 

[US-1]

Those that can't get laid run down a race track.

Wow.....that's just so.....so.....so......pathetic. Hush now, m'kay? The grown up people are talking.

Really,, Am I reading this correctly? Is this true? My whole world has just come crumbling down....

Seriously, Can we keep this on point, and shelf the sticks and stone stuff?

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

 

[Error404]

I do, however, want my kit to be figured out, and if Edelbrock doesn't want to dig into it deeper, we sure will...

Good to hear you are into figuring out the issue! It's like beta testing software, doesn't do any good unless you help find out the problems

The grown up people are talking.

lol. aren't you the one who first started 'assuming' that people who don't drag race aren't getting laid?

 

[don_w]

Don, how much boost are you running? Anyone else want to chime in with their track numbers with a different blower for comparison? This is not in any way negative, I am simply curious

When mine went 10.37, it was on a 15psi pulley. On the dyno, it actually comes in at 15psi, and then at the end of the pull, spikes to 18psi.

 

[navbtcret]

I know this thread is not about my install as I am far from stock, but I drove the car over 700 miles round trip this weekend in the wind, rain and snow to race at Milan. I got there changes my rear tire to the DR's, adjusted my tokico's, got tech'd in and lined up for my first run ever with the blower. I have nothing to gain from Mike @ Powerhouse nor from Edelbrock, this kit performed flawlessly and better than I expected at 13 psi. It does what is advertised and more imho. I got no price break on the kit either, it is all out of my own pocket. I also got 19+ mpg for the trip too, it would have been better but mashing the gas pedal is just too tempting.

I had a gen 1 whipple on the car before this @ 10 psi and it ran great as well but I did run as well as this and I am only 3 psi higher with the Edelbrock.

The only major difference to the car from last year is I forged the motor but it still the stock compression, stock crank and heads. I do have Brenspeeds twinscrew grind cams on the car but they are a very mild grind and you can not hear them at all. How much did they add? I do not know but there site claims 20 rwhp so it not great gains but modest ones.

If anyone is thinking about this kit I would not be worried about buying one. I am sure if you have an issue with it edelbrock will stand behind their product, like they have for everything else they sell, for many years.

 

[Thereaper]

The E-Force sounds good to me but does it fit well under a stock hood ?

 

[navbtcret]

The E-Force sounds good to me but does it fit well under a stock hood ?

It fits great.

 

[US-1]

I know this thread is not about my install as I am far from stock, but I drove the car over 700 miles round trip this weekend in the wind, rain and snow to race at Milan. I got there changes my rear tire to the DR's, adjusted my tokico's, got tech'd in and lined up for my first run ever with the blower. I have nothing to gain from Mike @ Powerhouse nor from Edelbrock, this kit performed flawlessly and better than I expected at 13 psi. It does what is advertised and more imho. I got no price break on the kit either, it is all out of my own pocket. I also got 19+ mpg for the trip too, it would have been better but mashing the gas pedal is just too tempting.

I had a gen 1 whipple on the car before this @ 10 psi and it ran great as well but I did run as well as this and I am only 3 psi higher with the Edelbrock.

The only major difference to the car from last year is I forged the motor but it still the stock compression, stock crank and heads. I do have Brenspeeds twinscrew grind cams on the car but they are a very mild grind and you can not hear them at all. How much did they add? I do not know but there site claims 20 rwhp so it not great gains but modest ones.

If anyone is thinking about this kit I would not be worried about buying one. I am sure if you have an issue with it edelbrock will stand behind their product, like they have for everything else they sell, for many years.

 

[Ninjak]

I know this thread is not about my install as I am far from stock, but I drove the car over 700 miles round trip this weekend in the wind, rain and snow to race at Milan. I got there changes my rear tire to the DR's, adjusted my tokico's, got tech'd in and lined up for my first run ever with the blower. I have nothing to gain from Mike @ Powerhouse nor from Edelbrock, this kit performed flawlessly and better than I expected at 13 psi. It does what is advertised and more imho. I got no price break on the kit either, it is all out of my own pocket. I also got 19+ mpg for the trip too, it would have been better but mashing the gas pedal is just too tempting.

I had a gen 1 whipple on the car before this @ 10 psi and it ran great as well but I did run as well as this and I am only 3 psi higher with the Edelbrock.

The only major difference to the car from last year is I forged the motor but it still the stock compression, stock crank and heads. I do have Brenspeeds twinscrew grind cams on the car but they are a very mild grind and you can not hear them at all. How much did they add? I do not know but there site claims 20 rwhp so it not great gains but modest ones.

If anyone is thinking about this kit I would not be worried about buying one. I am sure if you have an issue with it edelbrock will stand behind their product, like they have for everything else they sell, for many years.

Very well said