golkhl
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Car looks great Terry!
2008 "tigermachine II" Bullitt Mustang build, Pics & Video on Post #518 ...
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Hi Andy,
Man I was just checking out your Status on your Threads and you have done a lot of things to your's over the years.
Do you by chance have any recent full size pics of it
T.
golkhl
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Here are a couple of current pics.
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Bulldog,
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Terry
TGR96
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Terry, thanks for the detailed write up on your impressions of the Dynamat. I live just south of you, in Huntsville, AL, so I know what you mean about the heat. But for me, it's not the heat so much, I would just like a quieter interior. Who knows, I may even upgrade my stereo! LOL If I keep my car, I am seriously contemplating doing the Dynamat, but I will probably try to do it myself to save labor costs.
Looking at the invoice, am I reading that correctly, $2K for labor?
Otherwise, your car is still looking awesome! Maybe one day I'll get back up there to Nashville Cars and Coffee and I can see that thing in person.
Looking at the invoice, am I reading that correctly, $2K for labor?
Otherwise, your car is still looking awesome! Maybe one day I'll get back up there to Nashville Cars and Coffee and I can see that thing in person.
Hey Chip,Terry, thanks for the detailed write up on your impressions of the Dynamat. I live just south of you, in Huntsville, AL, so I know what you mean about the heat. But for me, it's not the heat so much, I would just like a quieter interior. Who knows, I may even upgrade my stereo! LOL If I keep my car, I am seriously contemplating doing the Dynamat, but I will probably try to do it myself to save labor costs.
Looking at the invoice, am I reading that correctly, $2K for labor?
Otherwise, your car is still looking awesome! Maybe one day I'll get back up there to Nashville Cars and Coffee and I can see that thing in person.
I try to attend Cars & Coffee but recently here it either does rain or has a very high percentage for it.
So I have not been in awhile.
Let me know if you do ever drive up or over to Cars & Coffee and I'll try my best to attend.
Just PM me if you like ...........
Yes, it looks like 16.8 Hrs. for labor and that came to $2,016.00 dollars.
But, also notice that below that labor figure there is a discount of, $302.40.
That's a Military discount as I was in the Army and Vietnam back in the mid 60's.
So that did reduce the labor cost some.
As you know the labor is the real cost of the Dynamat install.
The product is certainly not cheap but the labor is killer !!!
Terry
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This is what I think and what I have seen from others that also have ran the TCI SSF tranny.
If the Mustang has lots of Torque at the rear wheels and you Drag-Race it with some kind of Drag-Radials.
It's going to {Fail} !!!
And it's not is it going to or not it's, just a matter of when.
On the other hand so to speak, if you are simply driving with it in a more normal way, No-Worries.
I've got 57K miles on my Bullitt now and I think maybe 47K of those miles might very well be with the 5R55s TCI SSF tranny.
Mine has Never-Ever-Failed or given me any problems.
And yes, mine has definitely been on multiple drag-strips over the years.
Some of those times it was running M/T drag-radials on the rear and skinnies on the front.
I have raced it many times with street tires under it.
The guys I personally know that basically drag-raced their Mustangs frequently had to have their's (Reconditioned) on a yearly basis or sometimes more Frequent.
They were running M/T drag-radials of course for low ET's.
IMO, what it really comes down to is the power level the Mustang has and then how is the Mustang being used.
Over 500 Rear-Wheel-Torque and Drag-Radials with Frequent Drag-Racing, equals, issues.
I don't necessarily drive mine like it's a Prius but I also keep in mind not to constantly Beat-the-Crap out of it everytime I drive it.
Just keep this in mind and it might save you a tranny issue.
It seems the TCI SSF, 5R55s does a pretty good job shifting up through the gears.
What will Break it quick is to, Slam it to the floor when cruising down the road in 5th O/D and make it downshift multiple gears.
That I can promise you will BREAK it and it will more than likely happen sooner than later.
(If the Mustang is running higher H/P & Trq.
Hope the above is some help to what you were wanting to know.
It's an honest reply ....
You did not ask, but I am also running the Custom Circle-D Billet Converter.
And in my case a C/F driveshaft and a GT-500 complete rear-end-assembly.
Terry
Any further questions just ask ............
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Thanks for the quick response Terry. You're the shining light I've been looking for lol. I keep reading all the horror stories of these trans blowing up, a little worrisome.
I'm a few weeks away from a whipple set up, mild street build but keeping peak numbers around 480rwhp. I've been nervous about spending this kind of money and having tranny issues (new TCI SSF has 400mi on it). Seems like from your feedback straight line acceleration isn't bad, but dropping multiple gears is the killer.
Very interesting stuff Terry. I'm running a circle D too, rebuilt at the same time as the trans. I think it's unbelievable you have almost 50k miles with all the builds you've had on that trans. You've definitely given me the confidence I needed to feel at ease about making this next big purchase. It's just going to be a fun street car on street tired and driven on the weekends. Thanks for the help, if there's anymore advice I'm all ears!
I'm a few weeks away from a whipple set up, mild street build but keeping peak numbers around 480rwhp. I've been nervous about spending this kind of money and having tranny issues (new TCI SSF has 400mi on it). Seems like from your feedback straight line acceleration isn't bad, but dropping multiple gears is the killer.
Very interesting stuff Terry. I'm running a circle D too, rebuilt at the same time as the trans. I think it's unbelievable you have almost 50k miles with all the builds you've had on that trans. You've definitely given me the confidence I needed to feel at ease about making this next big purchase. It's just going to be a fun street car on street tired and driven on the weekends. Thanks for the help, if there's anymore advice I'm all ears!
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To elaborate further .............
As I said above if you drive it in a more normal manner and not Constantly-Beating on it, No-Worries.
If on the other hand, you take off Full Throttle, tires Break-Loose, you back out of the gas, tires start sticking and trans has meanwhile shifted to a higher gear, you instantly now Slam it to the Floor, it has to to Shift down Multiple-Gears.
Keep that up and the trans will FAIL and that's not an opinion, it's a FACT !!!
Same thing with running down the road or interstate and some guy pulls up beside you while your running say, 50-60 MPH and you all of a Sudden, Slam the gas to the Floor causing the trans to do Multiple-instantaneous, Down-shifts.
Keep that up and there goes the trans ...........
I run the TCI Ratchet Shifter and simply push the BTN on the left-side of the shifter to take it out of O/D.
Then assuming you are running fast enough that there is No-Way the trans can shift down to 2nd gear from 4th gear as you just pushed the BTN that took it out of 5th O/D.
All it can do is possibly shift back to 3rd gear and then at WOT shift back to 4th gear and your butt is hauling serious ass now. LOL !!!
At the power level you mentioned I think you will really enjoy your Set-Up with the TCI SSF.
You will be running a very similar power level I was with my older Saleen Supershaker Supercharger.
If you don't have the TCI Ratchet Shifter you might wish to consider going with it.
It looks great in our S-197 Mustangs and works pretty darn good.
It's not Flawless just so you know as I have had 3 in my Bullitt over the years.
Here are some older pics you might enjoy.
I (Highly) recommend getting the extended Oil Trans Pan with Dip-Stick-Option.
This is me,
I really like this C/F driveshaft,
Terry
XJCasper
forum member
To elaborate further .............
Terry
Damn that looks good...
But I don't have to tell you that. Too late...
This post will be disclosing the on going aggravating issues .....
For those interested,
Many of you know that I have been having DBR Performance in Springhill, TN. working on my Bullitt.
What you don't know is what, (Serpentine-Belt-Noise) that I finally got totally Fed-Up with and made the decision to get things fixed once and for all.
This actually all started way the heck back when mine was converted from the 6-Rib to the 8-Rib set-up.
It started making the squeaking just every once in awhile and over time just simply got much more frequent.
I tried switching serpentine belts to the (Green) Heavy-Duty-Belt and it seemed to stop for awhile then as usual came back.
Also tried different belt type dressings.\ and at best they only worked short term at best !!!
The above might seem like no big deal but I can assure you some things are not easily corrected no matter what Performance Shop and Technician is doing the work.
I have waited to do this post for a couple of reasons.
1st off to make sure the issues were totally corrected and I think they are from the driving I have recently done in it plus Jon at DBR testing it also.
2nd, because I feel like many people don't really want to read a (Lengthy, Drawn-Out) story, that being the case how to share this and keep it short.
So, the issues I wanted taken care of were, serpentine belt slippage, squealing, squeaking that has been going on for a heck of a long time.
Here is the 1st items that Jon did below,
And he did those things as I found the information in a Magazine Article and shared it with him on the pulleys.
This is after the "Griptec" coating
Next was replacing the Steeda serpentine belt tensioner with a Billet Heavy-Duty Unit
Next Jon added the Heat Shielding / Silencers to the Rear (Borla Touring) axle-backs
I also read about these and decided to give them a try while Job had the car
The intent was to just maybe make the cabin more livable as in quieter
So, did the above actually accomplish silencing the Serpentine Belt Squealing / Squeaking as well as the serpentine belt slipping ???
Yes, the serpentine belt definitely is not slipping any-longer.
But,
Nope I picked it up and drove it home to Discount Tire to have the Left-Front wheel & tire balanced.
I had scratched it going through the drive up at Bank of America.
So new one was installed and needed to be balanced.
As I pulled out of Discount Tire the serpentine belt started once again making noise.
So called DBR and simply drove it back to them and dropped it back off.
Cathy (Wife) drove over and picked me up from DBR.
So here is the final invoice from last Friday March 3rd of March 2017 and the list of things Jon did
Jon removed all the idler pulleys and then called me to drive over so he could show me what he found
All the pulleys bearings were real rough and you could see where the grease had come out the back side of them
(Turns out they were "Single-Bearing-Idler-Pulleys")
He ordered all four replacement ones but this time he ordered (Double-Bearing Racing Idler Pulleys)
While waiting for them to arrive he took the other two apart and rebuilt them so they were also new and those were Double-Bearing Pulleys
Next Jon test drove the Bullitt for like days on end as weather permitted.
What he found was that as he drove it at a certain speed the serpentine belt made the noticeable Squealing sound.
Once he would let up on the gas it would never make the sound again.
So he and David discussed it and they mutually decided that if they hooked it up to their Dyno they probably could get it to make the noise.
Jon called me for permission to hook it up to the dyno to try to Duplicate the noise and I obviously said have at it guys.
Sure enough once they hooked it up they could then look under the hood while the other was in the driver's seat and finally Duplicate the noise over & over.
They then called me to show me what the heck was causing the on going never ending noise from that serpentine-belt.
It's only like a 20-minute drive to them so I get there and sure enough they could get it to do it over & over easily.
It was the Innovator's West 18% overdrive Crank Damper.
So DBR Performance ONLY uses ATI for the Crank Damper and said they wanted to go with it as they had Never had a Failure using the ATI.
I signed off on it and Jon then got it on order.
Turns out that the ATI one is actually a 20% overdrive unit which is very little difference in size between it and the IW 18% one.
The ATI comes in and Jon does the install and also replaced the Serpentine Belt with a new one (After) he tested it with the one that was on
the engine when it was still making the noise.
That way he could be sure that simply putting a new belt on is not why the noise went away.
While he had the Crank Damper off he also checked the (Crank-Seal) and it also was worn so he installed a new one.
Here it is on the Dyno and this is when they actually found out what was still making the noise from the serpentine belt issue
Below are pictures Jon took of the IW and the ATI replacement.
It's probably hard to see in the pictures but the IW was badly worn and had like a knife edges to it.
Jon, Also switched positions of two of the idler pulleys.
The Larger one he placed where it provided much better belt wrap the the Small Roush S/C Pulley.
(The Roush has a Custom Pulley that is very small so needs all the help it can get from the "Griptec" Coating and the Larger idler pulley)
The small one that was where the larger one is now he moved to where it provided belt wrap to the alternator.
The alternator had plenty of belt wrap so the smaller idler pulley was just fine in it's new position.
So all was completed as you saw above in the text as well as the pictures.
So time to pick it up while it was a pretty sunny afternoon.
Seems appropriate to me to take some pictures of David (Owner) & Jon (Shop Foreman) as I picked up the Bullitt.
I will add that both of them are Super nice guys and they do care about their customers.
I'm thankful that over a year ago I met them in person and have had positive dealings with them everytime I have dealt with them.
Left to right,
David & Jon
Jon pulling it out
Left to Right
David, Me & Jon
So I picked it up and drove it around with no noise at all from the very elusive serpentine belt.
Drove over to Bobby Price's house the next day (Saturday) and we had breakfast at the local White House Cracker Barrel.
Then we hung out for the rest of the day until it was time for some Domino's Large Pizza.
(Meat Lover's guys and it was Killer)
Here is Bobby as I was getting ready to head out while it was still light outside.
(I hate not being able to see the tractor-trailer tire-cases in the middle of the interstate at night)
Oh Bobby did a short video I can share with you guys.
Lastly I took it for it's 2017 Federal Emissions Testing yesterday see below the results.
Lastly stopped off at Shell and filled it back up with 93-Octane pump gas.
Off to it's home after that and it's in the garage with the wife's new 2017 Golf R we just purchased a few weeks ago.
For those interested,
Many of you know that I have been having DBR Performance in Springhill, TN. working on my Bullitt.
What you don't know is what, (Serpentine-Belt-Noise) that I finally got totally Fed-Up with and made the decision to get things fixed once and for all.
This actually all started way the heck back when mine was converted from the 6-Rib to the 8-Rib set-up.
It started making the squeaking just every once in awhile and over time just simply got much more frequent.
I tried switching serpentine belts to the (Green) Heavy-Duty-Belt and it seemed to stop for awhile then as usual came back.
Also tried different belt type dressings.\ and at best they only worked short term at best !!!
The above might seem like no big deal but I can assure you some things are not easily corrected no matter what Performance Shop and Technician is doing the work.
I have waited to do this post for a couple of reasons.
1st off to make sure the issues were totally corrected and I think they are from the driving I have recently done in it plus Jon at DBR testing it also.
2nd, because I feel like many people don't really want to read a (Lengthy, Drawn-Out) story, that being the case how to share this and keep it short.
So, the issues I wanted taken care of were, serpentine belt slippage, squealing, squeaking that has been going on for a heck of a long time.
Here is the 1st items that Jon did below,
And he did those things as I found the information in a Magazine Article and shared it with him on the pulleys.
This is after the "Griptec" coating
Next was replacing the Steeda serpentine belt tensioner with a Billet Heavy-Duty Unit
Next Jon added the Heat Shielding / Silencers to the Rear (Borla Touring) axle-backs
I also read about these and decided to give them a try while Job had the car
The intent was to just maybe make the cabin more livable as in quieter
So, did the above actually accomplish silencing the Serpentine Belt Squealing / Squeaking as well as the serpentine belt slipping ???
Yes, the serpentine belt definitely is not slipping any-longer.
But,
Nope I picked it up and drove it home to Discount Tire to have the Left-Front wheel & tire balanced.
I had scratched it going through the drive up at Bank of America.
So new one was installed and needed to be balanced.
As I pulled out of Discount Tire the serpentine belt started once again making noise.
So called DBR and simply drove it back to them and dropped it back off.
Cathy (Wife) drove over and picked me up from DBR.
So here is the final invoice from last Friday March 3rd of March 2017 and the list of things Jon did
Jon removed all the idler pulleys and then called me to drive over so he could show me what he found
All the pulleys bearings were real rough and you could see where the grease had come out the back side of them
(Turns out they were "Single-Bearing-Idler-Pulleys")
He ordered all four replacement ones but this time he ordered (Double-Bearing Racing Idler Pulleys)
While waiting for them to arrive he took the other two apart and rebuilt them so they were also new and those were Double-Bearing Pulleys
Next Jon test drove the Bullitt for like days on end as weather permitted.
What he found was that as he drove it at a certain speed the serpentine belt made the noticeable Squealing sound.
Once he would let up on the gas it would never make the sound again.
So he and David discussed it and they mutually decided that if they hooked it up to their Dyno they probably could get it to make the noise.
Jon called me for permission to hook it up to the dyno to try to Duplicate the noise and I obviously said have at it guys.
Sure enough once they hooked it up they could then look under the hood while the other was in the driver's seat and finally Duplicate the noise over & over.
They then called me to show me what the heck was causing the on going never ending noise from that serpentine-belt.
It's only like a 20-minute drive to them so I get there and sure enough they could get it to do it over & over easily.
It was the Innovator's West 18% overdrive Crank Damper.
So DBR Performance ONLY uses ATI for the Crank Damper and said they wanted to go with it as they had Never had a Failure using the ATI.
I signed off on it and Jon then got it on order.
Turns out that the ATI one is actually a 20% overdrive unit which is very little difference in size between it and the IW 18% one.
The ATI comes in and Jon does the install and also replaced the Serpentine Belt with a new one (After) he tested it with the one that was on
the engine when it was still making the noise.
That way he could be sure that simply putting a new belt on is not why the noise went away.
While he had the Crank Damper off he also checked the (Crank-Seal) and it also was worn so he installed a new one.
Here it is on the Dyno and this is when they actually found out what was still making the noise from the serpentine belt issue
Below are pictures Jon took of the IW and the ATI replacement.
It's probably hard to see in the pictures but the IW was badly worn and had like a knife edges to it.
Jon, Also switched positions of two of the idler pulleys.
The Larger one he placed where it provided much better belt wrap the the Small Roush S/C Pulley.
(The Roush has a Custom Pulley that is very small so needs all the help it can get from the "Griptec" Coating and the Larger idler pulley)
The small one that was where the larger one is now he moved to where it provided belt wrap to the alternator.
The alternator had plenty of belt wrap so the smaller idler pulley was just fine in it's new position.
So all was completed as you saw above in the text as well as the pictures.
So time to pick it up while it was a pretty sunny afternoon.
Seems appropriate to me to take some pictures of David (Owner) & Jon (Shop Foreman) as I picked up the Bullitt.
I will add that both of them are Super nice guys and they do care about their customers.
I'm thankful that over a year ago I met them in person and have had positive dealings with them everytime I have dealt with them.
Left to right,
David & Jon
Jon pulling it out
Left to Right
David, Me & Jon
So I picked it up and drove it around with no noise at all from the very elusive serpentine belt.
Drove over to Bobby Price's house the next day (Saturday) and we had breakfast at the local White House Cracker Barrel.
Then we hung out for the rest of the day until it was time for some Domino's Large Pizza.
(Meat Lover's guys and it was Killer)
Here is Bobby as I was getting ready to head out while it was still light outside.
(I hate not being able to see the tractor-trailer tire-cases in the middle of the interstate at night)
Oh Bobby did a short video I can share with you guys.
YouTube
Lastly I took it for it's 2017 Federal Emissions Testing yesterday see below the results.
Lastly stopped off at Shell and filled it back up with 93-Octane pump gas.
Off to it's home after that and it's in the garage with the wife's new 2017 Golf R we just purchased a few weeks ago.
AndrewNagle
forum member
Thanks for sharing, glad they figured it out and I am sure you are glad they are locall
Andrew,
Yes I'm glad that finally the squealing is finally over with.
Now the weather here will be changing soon to Spring time and much warmer.
So Cars & Coffee will once again be in play and is only a few exits from me.
It would be embarrassing to drive in and all of a sudden the damn serpentine belt start squealing.
It is very convenient to do busy with DBR Performance for sure.
They do very-very High-End builds so it's an interesting place to visit on occasions.
Terry
'14StangGT
forum member
Terry, looks like the wheels you have are discontinued..... 
David,Terry, looks like the wheels you have are discontinued.....
That's correct Mickey Thompson discontinued them some time ago.
I found that out some weeks ago when I scratched the driver's left front wheel.
I dropped by Discount Tire to have a new replacement ordered and soon found out that.
Luckily there were still SC-5 wheels available then but once they are gone from current inventory that's it.
They are really nice looking wheels so I don't know why MT dropped them.
Terry
06 T-RED S/C GT
forum member
Terry ! American Muscle still has what's left of them in stock.. Perhaps M/T is going to replace the SC/5 wheels with an updated version fairly soon 
Anyway here's the link for AM, if interested..
-Rocky
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mt-sc5-wheels-0509.html
Edit: Disregard... AM no longer carries them in stock !
Anyway here's the link for AM, if interested..
-Rocky
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mt-sc5-wheels-0509.html
Edit: Disregard... AM no longer carries them in stock !
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