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no but it was one two other bigger sites
no but it was one two other bigger sites
Aandf1978
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Cool I'll have to look into that, sure would be interesting and valuable information to uncover to a site like this.
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im looking for the threads now for you guys, id like to say who it was but not sure if ill get into trouble over it
19COBRA93
Ford Racing
I agree. I think on boosted cars the timing gets reduced and lots of fuel gets added. The SC adds all the hp. On n/a cars the timing gets increased, and at times the a/f gets leaned out or changed all for max hp over what it's already making. Ford has already said these motors are on the edge as far as timing and compression, so to squeeze any more out of them without a power adder by increasing timing is simply asking for trouble.
oh no i guess you forgot the DO NOT BOOST INTO 5 or 6 gear threads do you?
I've owned 3 '03 Cobras. I'm quire familiar with what they're capable (or incapable) of. One was bone stock. One was mildly modified, and the other was twin turbo.
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19COBRA93
Ford Racing
I too would like to see the names of the tuners who have had confirmed #8 failures.
HEMI LOL
The Feast and The Famine
Took the words out of my mouth.
Hmmmm, now I've got extra leverage with the wife to get that Procharger or Whipple kit I was planning on getting next year.
She did just ask what I wanted for my birthday!
Me: Baby, I need to get a blower to keep my # 8 piston intact.
Her: What the hell is a # 8 piston?
Me: It's very expensive!
Her: Damnit Nick! It's always something. Well, if you get a blower the piston will be ok?
Me: Yup!
Her: sigh
Me: Thanks babe! I'll place the order, and we'll know the 5.0 is safe.
69Mach1-409
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HAHAHA!
UltraKla$$ic
PERENNIAL WAXXER
I'd like to see this proof. I've read on other major forums that NOTHING can be done to hide the fact the PCM has been flashed/tampered with.
I'm always up for being proven wrong though.
Nick said:
WHIPPLE FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
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Aandf1978
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Good luck with that Nick!!! Let us know how that works out for ya!! And also how many foot rubs and how much sex you have to give up for that to happen!!
Good luck with that Nick!!! Let us know how that works out for ya!! And also how many foot rubs and how much sex you have to give up for that to happen!!
No joke, I'm trying it tonight!
She may buy the story. I'm working on believing it myself, so I can sell it better!
I'll create my own "build" thread in Pimpin' It if I can pull this off!
I'll likely have to wait until the end of the month to order it, so for now it's research time.
Whipple or Procharger?!?
topbliss
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Bingo.... I am SO glad I did not pop for a 5.0 now.. my 3v is rock solid
UltraKla$$ic
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Witt
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Interesting thread however sorry to hear about your situation OP.
As an amateur tuner (I do it as a hobby, not as a career so my opinion doesn't hold any weight) the first thing that pops into my mind is detonation given the circumstances of a stock longblock NA engine. When its an issue, most engines like to destroy a specific ringland or piston every time.
I don't have any ford 3v files in front of me to check nor do I have access to Coyote cals but I would guess that the base borderline knock table + adders minus knock retard + global spark adder (hopefully tuners aren't using this value though) could be overruning maximum allowable spark retard to effectively dimish circumstances of high levels of knock in very specific cases ie. high IATs, prolonged engine loading etc. I tune mostly GMs so I'm not even sure if Fords have max spark retard values that would become an issue without grabbing my laptop and checking. If they do, I wonder if stock retard limits are high enough for cars with greatly advanced timing over stock 87 levels.
Just an opinion as its been over a year since I've tuned my now traded procharged 09 3v. From what I've seen, except for the cam phasing tables, fueling and spark is similar between the 3v and 4v.
As an amateur tuner (I do it as a hobby, not as a career so my opinion doesn't hold any weight) the first thing that pops into my mind is detonation given the circumstances of a stock longblock NA engine. When its an issue, most engines like to destroy a specific ringland or piston every time.
I don't have any ford 3v files in front of me to check nor do I have access to Coyote cals but I would guess that the base borderline knock table + adders minus knock retard + global spark adder (hopefully tuners aren't using this value though) could be overruning maximum allowable spark retard to effectively dimish circumstances of high levels of knock in very specific cases ie. high IATs, prolonged engine loading etc. I tune mostly GMs so I'm not even sure if Fords have max spark retard values that would become an issue without grabbing my laptop and checking. If they do, I wonder if stock retard limits are high enough for cars with greatly advanced timing over stock 87 levels.
Just an opinion as its been over a year since I've tuned my now traded procharged 09 3v. From what I've seen, except for the cam phasing tables, fueling and spark is similar between the 3v and 4v.
topbliss
Senior Member
as a matter of fact, there were not.. Especially from just a tune on a NA engine.. If so you would have seen a tsb (like the 5.0) claiming not to warrant engines with tunes.
ROFL!!!
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